NWN Vista/Win 7 "newer" multi-core fix and other issues

[Legacy_the_critical_process]

               Well I've decided to face this ogre again.  A fresh instal did show some signs of promise.  But then installing the two expansions and the critical rebuild brought the problems all back again.  And this was straight on the C-drive, not in any folder -- which somehow means I don't have "permission" to alter the nwnplayer.ini (to try the CPU Affinity changes) this time (though as I said, that didn't help before).



What to do, any ideas?
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Guest_Lowlander_*]

               CPU affinity isn't really an issue. Just check in task manager that NWN isn't ending up on one of your Hyperthreaded Virtual cores. In default mode, NWN will occupy CPU 0, which is a real core. If this is the case, Affinity is a non issue.



I think you need to look elsewhere.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_the_critical_process]

               Hmm I'm not exactly sure how to do that.  When I run NWN, and look at the Task Manager, there's a "nwmain.exe*32" running on CPU 25 (though it flops back and forth between a 25 and 24).  All others are running on CPU 00.  Does that look like a culprit?  When I R-click and choose "Set Affinity" I get told "Access is denied".  (It seems with Windows 7 I don't have permission to do all kinds of things...)  This is even though "Full Control" is checked and it's being run as an "administrator".
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Guest_Lowlander_*]

               CPU 25, is that is using 25% of your CPU, which is saying it is using 1 complete core.

Click on the "performance" tab in task manager and you will see a grid of 4 CPU graphs. Check which one is maxed out. It should be the first one. This is what you want.

Something like this (but only the First graph maxed)
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                     Modifié par Lowlander, 09 février 2011 - 09:59 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_the_critical_process]

               It's just like you said, yes.  I don't guess that puts me any closer to knowing what's wrong and being able to play NWN though, ya?



As an aside, why 4 graphs if it's only a dual-core?
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Guest_Lowlander_*]

               Each Core has hyperthreading, meaning it can run a 2nd thread to make use of unused execution units in the core.  The extra thread slot appears like a virtual core. My only concern was that NWN somehow got stuck on the virtual core.  But if it is on the first slot, it is a real core.

I would double check the system for issues. Benchmark you CPU and Graphics card with something to see that they are in right ballpark and try getting new graphics drivers directly from the AMD site.
               
               

               

                     Modifié par Lowlander, 10 février 2011 - 01:57 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_the_critical_process]

               I understand what you said about the drivers, but what is meant by benchmarking?



Also, all other games seem to be fine.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Guest_Lowlander_*]

               Benchmarking is just testing to ensure you system is performing ok. But if your other games are running fine, then likely it isn't a general performance issue.



Drivers I guess. Maybe try switching sound/disabling it. Some have issues with that.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_t2couger]

               i had proformance issues on my i7 that was OC to 3.8g 6gig ram and 285gtx.  i was getting around 28fps with dips lower. i disabled Hyperthreading and my fps jumped up and hovers around 60. 
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_lordofworms]

               you can disable hyperthreading in the BIOS on boot-up. then restart PC again after saving changes.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_the_critical_process]

               What are the consequences of disabling hyperthreading?  If I do it, what bad things are going to happen to my computer??

If I try this and it solves the problem, will I have to reboot my computer, enable/disable this hyperthreading in the bios, each time I want to start/stop a game of NWN?

I have still not been able to play NWN since getting a new computer (dual core) and Win 7.  It does play, but at an incredibly slow frame rate.
               
               

               

                     Modifié par the_critical_process, 07 juin 2011 - 02:22 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_Gorath Alpha]

               That question is about Windows, not about NWN.  You need to visit "Annoyances" or an equivalent OS Help site, such as Microsoft's.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_LongLiveRockathon]

               Critical Process, I'm having the same problem as you. That and my CPU Usage is at 50%
I've done everything from fresh install, to messing with the cpu affinity, turning a core off, and it's still unplayable.
I have an HP Pavilion
AMD Turion Dual Core Mobile M260 at 2.5 GHz
and ATI Radeon M880g with HD 4200
and running Window 7.
Any new ideas would greatly help.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_LongLiveRockathon]

               Hey just fixed the problem by installing the June 2010 DirectX runtime package. Some older games aren't compatible with the libraries included with current releases of DirectX. I'm running at full speed, no problems. I hope this helps, criticall process
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_the_critical_process]

               How can I... I'm not sure what that all means actually.

Have you rolled back to an older version of Direct X?  Does that mean your computer can't run newer games now?

If you can now run NWN1 and also can still run newer games, can someone tell me how he did that?

My thanks for sure!