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Broken repeat in the corner of an area
« on: September 07, 2011, 01:54:00 pm »


               Hi,
I have a problem with an area which is using pits on the outside as the area is supposed to be high in the mountains. Now, when I have a pit in the corner of that area the automatic visual repeat doesn't work right. It shows some broken area tiles instead of the pit's depth it should repeat. That problem doesn't appear anywhere else on the edge, just in every corner. I'm using the tileset "E Mountains Rocky" (yes, a lot of hack packs installed). I doubt there is another solution than not using pits in the corners. But if anyone has another idea or already knows a solution, I'd be glad to hear it. Thank you very much.
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2011, 05:30:33 pm »


               Typically, edge tiles are named with the folowing type of name:  tcn01_z01_01.mdl, where the numbers change, Ie z02_01, z02_03 whatever.  Note the use of "z" in the tilename.  "z" by default is an edge tile in a given set, of course depending on who created that set etc.

You can check the tileset edge .2da to see what tile was assigned, and look into the hak to see what other tiles exist as edges, then see if reassigning a different one will work.

Just changing the names as entered in the 2da will switch what tile is used.  However, finding a pit for a corner will require some real looking, and you may have to create the tile you need.  (not hard, you take a tile that has what you need in a working tile, and delete the wok object, rotate the tile 90 degrees, and rename it to whatever edge number you need.

Regardless, whatever fix you create, will have to be distributed out to your players.

If you have a link to the vault release of this set, I can take a quick look to see if the tile you need actually exists and just wasn't assigned properly, or if it needs to be created.
               
               

               


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Broken repeat in the corner of an area
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2011, 11:46:56 pm »


               Hi Bannor Bloodfist and thanks a lot for your reply.
The tileset used is part of the rtc (http://nwvault.ign.c....Detail&id=5762), but it should be this one: http://nwvault.ign.c....Detail&id=3936 (I tried installing this hak and the problem was the same).
Here is the 2da of the later:

2DA V2.0

       Corner1     Edge       Corner2     Height     Model           
0      Stone0       ****       Water        0          tbm_a92_01    
1      Water        ****       Water        0          TTR01_Z02_01    
2      Stone0+      ****       Water        0          tbm_a93_01   
3      Stone0       ****       Stone0       0          tbm_a47_01    
4      Stone0+      ****       Stone0       0          tbm03_Z01_01    
5      Stone0+      ****       Stone0+      1          tbm_a47_01    
6      Stone0       Road       Stone0       0          tbm_a88_01    
7      Stone0       Stream     Stone0       0          tbm_a89_01    
8      Stone0       Wall       Stone0       0          tbm_a90_01    
9      Stone0       Wall2      Stone0       0          tbm_a91_01    
10     Water        Road       Water        0          TTR01_Z16_01    
11     Water        ****       ****         0          TTR01_Z02_01    
12     Stone0       ****       ****         0          tbm_a47_01    
13     Stone0+      ****       ****         1          tbm_a47_01    
14     Stone0+      Road       Stone0+      1          tbm_a88_01    
15     Stone0+      Stream     Stone0+      1          tbm_a89_01    
16     Stone0+      Wall       Stone0+      1          tbm_a90_01    
17     Stone0+      Wall2      Stone0+      1          tbm_a91_01    
18     Stone1       ****       Stone1       0          tbm03_Z02_01    
19     Stone2       ****       Stone2       0          tbm03_Z03_01    
20     Stone0       ****       Stone1       0          tbm03_Z04_01    
21     Stone0       ****       Stone2       0          tbm03_Z05_01    
22     Stone1       ****       Stone2       0          tbm03_Z06_01    
23     Stone2       ****       Stone0+      0          tbm03_Z07_01    
23     Stone1       ****       Stone0+      0          tbm03_Z08_01    
24     Stone0       Cwall1     Stone0       0          tbm02_z01_01  
25     EvilCastle   ****       EvilCastle   0          TCN01_Z04_01    
26     GoodCastle   ****       GoodCastle   0          TCN01_Z05_01    
27     GoodCastle   ****       Stone0       0          tbm01_w61_01    
28     EvilCastle   ****       Stone0       0          tbm01_w60_01    
29     GoodCastle   ****       ****         0          TCN01_Z05_01    
30     Stone0+      ****       ****         1          TCN01_Z01_01  
31     Stone0+      ****       Water+       1          tbm_a92_01     
32     Water+       ****       Water+       1          TTR01_Z02_01    
33     Water+       ****       Water        0          tbm11_g12_99    
34     Stone1       ****       Stone1+      0          tbm05_Z01_01    
35     Stone2       ****       Stone2+      0          tbm05_Z02_01    
36     Grass0       ****       Grass0       0          tbm06_Z01_01    
37     Grass0+      ****       Grass0+      1          tbm06_Z01_01    
38     Grass0       ****       Stone0       0          tbm06_Z03_01    
39     Grass0+      ****       Stone0+      1          tbm06_Z03_01    
40     Snow0        ****       Snow0        0          tbm07_Z01_01    
41     Snow0        ****       Stone0       0          tbm07_Z03_01    
42     Snow0+       ****       Snow0+       1          tbm07_Z01_01    
43     Snow0+       ****       Stone0+      1          tbm07_Z03_01    
44     Snow0        ****       ****         0          tbm07_Z01_01    
45     Grass0       ****       ****         0          tbm06_Z01_01    
46     Snow0+       ****       ****         1          tbm07_Z01_01    
47     Grass0+      ****       ****         1          tbm06_Z01_01    
48     cloud0       ****       cloud0       0          tbm07_Zc1_01    
49     cloud0       ****       Stone0       0          tbm07_Zc3_01    
50     cloud0+      ****       cloud0+      1          tbm07_Zc1_01    
51     cloud0+      ****       Stone0+      1          tbm07_Zc3_01    
52     cloud0       ****       ****         0          tbm07_Zc1_01    
53     cloud0+      ****       ****         1          tbm07_Zc1_01    
54     Stone1       ****       ****         0          tbm03_Z02_01
55     Stone2       ****       ****         0          tbm03_Z03_01
56     Pit          ****       Pit          0          tbm_p94_01    
57     Pit          ****       Stone0       0          tbm_p92_01         
58     Pit+         ****       Pit+         1          tbm_p92_01         
59     Pit+         ****       Stone0+      1          tbm_p92_01         
60     Pit          ****       ****         0          tbm_p92_01         
61     Pit+         ****       ****         1          tbm_p92_01    
62     Stone0+      ****       Pit          0          tbm_p93_01   
63     Pit          Road       Pit          0          tbm01_zzz_01
64     Lava+        ****       Lava         0          tbml_a01_01
65     Stone0       ****       Lava         0          tbml_a62_01
66     Stone0+      ****       Lava+        1          tbml_a62_01
67     Stone0+      ****       Lava         0          tbml_a63_01
68     Lava         Road       Lava         0          tbml_zz1_01    
69     Lava+        Road       Lava+        1          tbml_zz1_01    
70     Lava         ****       ****         0          tbml_zz2_01
71     Lava+        ****       ****         0          tbml_zz2_01
72     Lava         ****       Lava         0          tbml_zz2_01    
73     Lava+        ****       Lava+        1          tbml_zz2_01    
74     Lava+        ****       Lava         0          tbml_zz2_01    
75     Stone0       lavastream Stone0       0          tbml_zz4_01    
76     Stone0+      lavastream Stone0+      1          tbml_zz4_01    
77     Lava         RaisedBridge  Lava      0          tbml_zz3_01    
78     Lava+        RaisedBridge  Lava+     1          tbml_zz3_01    
79     Water        RaisedBridge  Water     0          tbm01_w94_01
80     Water+       RaisedBridge  Water+    1          tbm01_w94_01
81     Pit          RaisedBridge  Pit       0          tbm01_w95_01
82     Pit+         RaisedBridge  Pit+      1          tbm01_w95_01
83     Stone0+      ****       cloud0       0          tbm07_zl1_14   
84     Stone0+      ****       EvilCastle   0          tbmc_zz1_01    
85     Stone0+      ****       GoodCastle   0          tbmc_zz2_01    
86     Trees        ****       Grass0       0          tbm15_Z08_01    
87     Trees        ****       Trees        0          tbm15_Z03_01    
88     Trees+       ****       Trees+       1          tbm15_Z03_01    
89     Grass0       Road       Grass0       0          tbm15_Z12_01    
90     Grass0+      Road       Grass0+      1          tbm15_Z12_01    
91     Grass0       Stream     Grass0       0          tbm15_Z15_01    
92     Grass0+      Stream     Grass0+      1          tbm15_Z15_01    
93     Grass0       Wall       Grass0       0          tbm15_Z13_01    
94     Grass0+      Wall       Grass0+      0          tbm15_Z13_01    
95     Grass0       Wall2      Grass0       0          tbm15_Z14_01    
96     Grass0+      Wall2      Grass0+      1          tbm15_Z14_01    
97     Trees        ****       Stone0       0          tbm18_Z01_01    
98     Trees+       ****       Stone0       0          tbm18_Z02_01    
99     Stone0+      ****       Trees        0          tbm18_Z03_01    
100    Trees+       ****       Stone0+      1          tbm18_Z01_01    
101    Trees+       ****       Trees        0          tbm18_Z04_01    
102    Trees        ****       ****         0          tbm15_Z03_01    
103    Trees+       ****       ****         1          tbm15_Z03_01    
104    Stone0       Tunnel     Stone0       0          tbm26_Z01_01    
105    Stone0+      Tunnel     Stone0+      1          tbm26_Z01_01    
106    Tunnelchamber ****      Tunnelchamber 0         tbm26_z02_01    
107    Tunnelchamber ****      ****         0          tbm26_z02_01    
108    Tunnelchamber+ ****      Tunnelchamber+ 1       tbm26_z02_01    
109    Tunnelchamber+ ****      ****         1         tbm26_z02_01    
110    Tunnelchamber ****      Stone0       0          tbm26_z03_01    
111    Tunnelchamber+ ****      Stone0+     1          tbm26_z03_01    
112    Tunnelchamber+ ****      Stone0      1          tbm26_z04_01    
113    Trees        Road       Trees        0          tbm12_Z01_01    
114    Trees+       Road       Trees+       1          tbm12_Z01_01    
115    Trees        RaisedBridge Trees      0          tbm12_Z02_01    
116    Trees+       RaisedBridge Trees+     1          tbm12_Z02_01    
117    TreePlatform ****       Trees        0          tbm12_Z03_01   
118    TreePlatform+ ****      Trees+       1          tbm12_Z03_01   
119    TreePlatform ****       TreePlatform 0          tbm12_Z04_01   
120    TreePlatform ****       ****         0          tbm12_Z04_01   
121    TreePlatform+ ****      TreePlatform+ 1         tbm12_Z04_01   
122    white0       ****       white0       0          tbm17_Z01_01    
123    white0       ****       Stone0       0          tbm17_Z03_01    
124    white0+      ****       white0+      1          tbm17_Z01_01    
125    white0+      ****       white0+      1          tbm17_Z03_01    
126    white0       ****       ****         0          tbm17_Z01_01    
127    white0+      ****       ****         1          tbm17_Z01_01    
128    Trees+       ****       Water        0          tbm01_zzb_01    
129    Trees        ****       Water        0          tbm01_zzb_02

So, everything that comes up with "pit" here, doesn't have a "z" in its name.
And: Do you know what "pit+" ist supposed to be in comparison to just "pit"? Is it "pit on higher terrain"? That would make sense with the height of 1. So I guess it is line 65 that I should play arround with.
I cannot just enter a model from another tile sets edge 2da right?
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2011, 12:24:20 am »


               I meant 56, not 65. However, line 60 was the one that needed to be changed to: tbm_p94_01
Everything is fine now. Thanks again for the hints on how that stuff works!
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2011, 01:29:07 am »


               Ok, that is an old set.

Easiest fix is to change lines 60 AND 61 to be tbm01_p83_01.

What SHOULD be done is to create a new tile for that position, and rename it too.  Take a copy of tbm01_p83_01, remove the wok, anim dummy if it has one, change the name to tbm_p95_01 and re-save it.  Then adjust line 60 and 61 to point to that new tile.

However, the fastest way is just to reuse a normal tile for this instance.  tbm01_p83_01 is the tile that is used for the bottom of the pit, and it is what is needed for that location.

note that I do mean tbm01_p83_01 not tbm_p83_01.  IE tbm zero one _ p83 _ 01


Edit:  Oops, missed that p94 tile, I had not loaded it yet to see what it was.. changing that works too!

But you still need to change both line 60 AND 61 to point to p94.
               
               

               


                     Modifié par Bannor Bloodfist, 11 septembre 2011 - 12:33 .
                     
                  


            

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« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2011, 09:51:56 pm »


               

Bannor Bloodfist wrote...

But you still need to change both line 60 AND 61 to point to p94.


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