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Legacy_TSMDude

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« on: October 13, 2010, 01:04:07 pm »


               Fishing for Players and Staff

I always feel it is disrespectful for players to log into our server and send tells to our players asking them to come to thier server. I especially hate it because we make it a practice to not advertise our server anywhere but here or on dead servers forums where we first ASK the Admin if this is okay.

And if it is not we do not do it.

Just a bit of a public admonishment here as well to the player with the name supersteveinside and the PC Ashan Goodmane that karma is not something to trifle with. No we will not ban you because why bother? If you had gone through the proper channels and talked to Staff first this would be a nonissue.

Talk to the Admins of servers first as a server built on deception and fishing is built on a soft foundation and will eventually fall and fail.
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2010, 08:26:53 pm »


               Have to agree. It's really low, in my opinion, to do so. It is disrespectful to the server and staff first and foremost. Not to mention, in many cases it just ends up being spam to many players and ruining their experience. So really, just don't do it.
               
               

               
            

Legacy_Jenna WSI

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« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2010, 07:31:46 pm »


               Had problems with Sage Dufraine for WSI.  I agree with your statement and it's a problem I've seen at more than one server. I agree it is disrespectful though. Most players WILL report it to a DM, so you'll just end up getting talked to or banned. Not worth it.
               
               

               


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« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2010, 02:21:06 am »


               We had a discussion on this recently at my own server.  I would never think of going to someone elses server and advertise my own server, fish for staff or players from someone elses server, or invite someone from some other server to visit my own.  I feel as Aleron has stated, that it would be disrespectful to the staff and players for me to do so and would also be disruptive to immersive gaming.
 
I have seen people do this on my own server where someone would invite someone else to check out such and such a server.  I have also seen at least 4 server owners "fishing" for players and one server owner who actually had the hugest set of "you-know-whats" to ask one of my senior staff to join his servers staff. 

Disrespectful?  In most cases I would say No.  My server player base is small as it is. The one thing I enjoy about that is everyone is a name and not just a number.  Players come and players go, which again is a nice thing cause some of them infuse new ideas into our player base or provide insight into something that would make our world even better. Others complain that "our server" is not like so and so's server or they want something to be changed to their own liking.  Those who complain alot or do not find our server to their liking are probably better off checking out someone elses server.  I would hope that someone does offer them a suggestion for a server that would be more to their liking.  I know I have recommended numerous servers(including the servers of some of the owners who've posted in here) and with that said I have not a single issue with any player inviting other players to check out someone elses server.  I think diversity of gameplay and rules amongst the multitude of servers has provided me with numerous ideas, suggestions, and entertainment value.  Far be it from me to deny others that same opportunity. 

However, I draw the line of tolerance when someone attempts to recruit from my staff list. 
That is disrespectful in my opinion. 
               
               

               
            

Legacy_Jenna WSI

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« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2010, 03:45:19 pm »


               We do suggest servers to our players which offer something different than we do, especially when the player seems to be looking for something other than what our server does... so it's not about numbers and hogging players, more just a respect thing. You wouldn't see someone walk into a restaurant wearing a sandwich board advertising the restaurant across the street. It's also been my experience that many times these people that spam players with invites are x-dms or such of said server, and are willfully trying to screw with the server... not broaden play horizons.
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2010, 03:20:55 pm »


               

Sharona Curves wrote... 
I have seen people do this on my own server where someone would invite someone else to check out such and such a server.  I have also seen at least 4 server owners "fishing" for players and one server owner who actually had the hugest set of "you-know-whats" to ask one of my senior staff to join his servers staff.  

However, I draw the line of tolerance when someone attempts to recruit from my staff list. 
That is disrespectful in my opinion. 


We have been fished alot as of late. It happened more when I was in the hospital which was a bit surprising but not by any of the more established servers.

I truthfully have no problems helping other worlds out nor does any of our Staff but please be polite is all we are saying. I know of several Staff from other servers who play on our server. It is all good. We do not mind as sometimes you need to blow off steam and kill chickens or want not. There is plenty of servers that allow just that steam blowing offness....

It is the recruiting/logging in to JUST send tells to other players that gets me. Why not just ask on the forums of said servers with a simple private message to the Admin?

I can think of about 4 servers off the top of my head we have helped and two that have helped us. All did it the right way. We even share CD Key Codes of people banned for griefing and cheating as if they do it in one spot most likely they will some where else.

My point of this posting was just to say this;

Be up front and be respectful. We are a Community.
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2011, 11:39:01 am »


               Based on The Sunscreen Song (Everybody's Free to Wear Sunscreen)
### by Mary Schmich and spoken by Baz Luhrman

====================

Buy a torch.

If I could offer you only one tip for adventuring, buy a torch would be it. While probably seen as a frivolous expense, a torch is always a good investment. Half of the day is spent in darkness; and caverns have no light. You can search more effectively if you can see the area around you and you can fight with one in your off-hand. The benefits of a torch are obvious, whereas the rest of my advice has no basis more reliable than my own meandering experience. I will dispense this advice now.

Enjoy your first three levels. Oh, never mind. You will not understand again how it feels to be mortal and how that forms ones personality until later. But trust me, in several levels, you'll look back at that time and marvel at how much you achieved with so little and how much the world opened up to you at every footstep. You are not as pathetic as you imagine.

Don't worry about leveling. Or worry, but know that worrying is as effective as trying to use your persuasion skill on a zombie. The real obstacles in life are things that are not obvious, the kind that seal the crypt behind you and start filling the space with noxious gasses while you are three areas deeper and a hundred feet below ground.

Do one thing every day that scares you.

*sigh*

Don't screw up other people's roleplaying. Don't put up with people that don't bother to roleplay.

Improve your Discipline.

Don't waste your time bartering with halflings. Sometimes you get a good deal, sometimes you don't. There are a lot of servers and, in the end, the game is only as good as what you contribute.

Remember suspicious looking folks. Forget the 'accidental fireballs'. If you succeed in doing this, tell me how.

Keep anything you cannot identify.

Throw away your old keys and plot items from completed quests.

Use stealth.

Don't fret if you spend sleepless hours trying to decide between a level of ranger or druid. Most players look back at their class choices and wonder if instead a level of rogue or barbarian would have been more effective. Some players like to multiclass while others stick to one. There are no wrong choices.

Buy and use thunderstones. Tithe your temple. You'll appreciate the reduced rates they give the faithful.

Maybe you'll level, maybe you won't. Maybe you'll save the damsel, maybe you won't. Maybe you'll die in some forgotten corner, maybe you'll dance on the corpse of some overconfident dracolich. Whatever you do, don't get too ***y, or blame yourself for not detecting every trap.

Your choices are a roll of a d20. So are everybody else's.

Enjoy the world. Explore every nook, cranny, stairway, alleyway and tree. Don't be afraid to try something unconventional and don't hesitate to run away. It's not cowardice to live to fight another day.

Walk, even if you are by yourself in the middle of the wilderness.

Listen to NPC's, even if you don't follow their advice.

Do not believe everything other characters tell you. They will only set you up and get you killed.

Get to know your DM's. You never know when they are watching. Be considerate of your fellow players. They are playing this for fun too and your actions might offend or really make them feel bad out-of-character.

Understand that death is inevitable, but that you can still leave a legacy to be remembered. Work hard to balance roleplay and character development, because the higher level you get, the more you will understand and appreciate the world unfolding around you.

Live in Waterdeep once, but leave before it makes you hard.

Live in Silverymoon once, but leave before it makes you soft.

Travel.

Accept certain inalienable truths: Experience and gold are hard to acquire. Player characters will kill each other. You too will eventually level. And when you do, you'll fantasize that when you were young, experience was too easy, gold was plentiful, characters always cooperated and DM's never make mistakes.

DM's are human.

Don't expect to get resurrected. Maybe you have a house or a bank account. Maybe another player will give you some equipment after you are looted. But you never know when either one might run out.

Don't fret too much over which server to play on. They all cater to all levels so trying to get to a certain point before you adventure someplace means you missed out on a lot of plot and intrigue that is established early on.

Be careful what plotlines you enter, and be patient while looking for one to participate in. Plotlines are not always obvious. Participating in them is sometimes short, sometimes rewarding, sometimes they change you, sometimes they reveal things you'd rather not know, and sometimes they leave you very, very satisfied knowing that you made a difference.

But trust me on buying a torch