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Bioware Archive V2 => General Discussion => Topic started by: Legacy_WebShaman on July 14, 2010, 12:41:34 am

Title: About getting organized and moving teh important stuff to here
Post by: Legacy_WebShaman on July 14, 2010, 12:41:34 am


               Ok folks!

Now that we are starting to get settled in, we need to turn our attentions to getting organized for the tasks ahead (which are daunting, indeed! :o )

That is namely moving over to here all the important stuff that we, the Community, have created over on the old forum.

Especially the Scripting forum has oodles of gold nuggets that need our care!

Anyone have ideas on how we can best get organized and accomplish these goals?

Sound off, peeps!
               
               

               
            
Title: About getting organized and moving teh important stuff to here
Post by: Legacy_Lightfoot8 on July 14, 2010, 12:44:32 am


               That may be a litter harder then you think.  I just did a test on the code and nwscript blocks.  we do not have them over here!!!
               
               

               
            
Title: About getting organized and moving teh important stuff to here
Post by: Legacy_WebShaman on July 14, 2010, 12:55:03 am


               Perhaps there are other means to which we can preserve our heritage (for that is what it is).  This thread should be dedicated to finding ways to do just that.



I am not a real scriptor (one could say I "dabble") - any suggestions here?
               
               

               
            
Title: About getting organized and moving teh important stuff to here
Post by: Legacy_B_Harrison on July 14, 2010, 12:56:48 am


               I'm thinking that while there's a huge amount of good information on the NWN boards, a lot of it is outdated and/or repeated elsewhere - maybe going through the sticky threads and condensing current, relevant information into new stickies would be more efficient than simply mass copy & pasting.

Still a lot of work however we do it, but I bet there'll be plenty of volunteers.
               
               

               
            
Title: About getting organized and moving teh important stuff to here
Post by: Legacy_Jenna WSI on July 14, 2010, 01:20:59 am


               Posted: Tuesday, 13 July 2010 08:06PM



The forum will be archived and read only, so it's not going to go
anywhere soon.

You can also link to any of your posts via the
Social Site under your profile. There is a link called BioBoards
Profile. Click that and it'll search the old forums and locate your old
threads.

You're all welcome to add me as a friend and best of
all, no more members stealing my profile grumpy Hill Giant avatar!

FP!

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Hopefully this is true, that all the material will remain, just without permissions set for posting.
               
               

               
            
Title: About getting organized and moving teh important stuff to here
Post by: Legacy_Drewskie on July 14, 2010, 01:23:08 am


               Leave it where it is. Nothing stopping people from going back and reading once it has been archived. And some of the stickied threads on the old board date back to '02. These new forums afford the opportunity of a fresh, uncluttered start...
               
               

               


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Title: About getting organized and moving teh important stuff to here
Post by: Legacy_WebShaman on July 14, 2010, 01:27:41 am


               Perhaps we need to then do a sort of "sticky" compilation, with links?
               
               

               
            
Title: About getting organized and moving teh important stuff to here
Post by: Legacy_Drewskie on July 14, 2010, 01:41:55 am


               That will be up to the moderator...  if not the bio community manager himself.
               
               

               
            
Title: About getting organized and moving teh important stuff to here
Post by: Legacy_Belnor on July 14, 2010, 01:45:55 am


               Read that archiving or porting is not possible on the NWN2 forums. But I think I saw we will be able to archive here? If so, here's hoping the links don't get broken any time soon.



Belnor.
               
               

               
            
Title: About getting organized and moving teh important stuff to here
Post by: Legacy_Lord Sullivan on July 14, 2010, 01:53:53 am


               Well here I am, not crazy about having to recreate my account and having to come here to this invasion of privacy website, but I guess I'll be extremely moderate about it.



As for the good old important info... most will be lost or hard to get to eventually. I wouldn't waste

my time on copying and pasting.



Anyhow, see you guys... sometimes.

               
               

               
            
Title: About getting organized and moving teh important stuff to here
Post by: Legacy_Lightfoot8 on July 14, 2010, 01:56:42 am


               I also do not know if the information is going to be avaiable after they archive it.  Here is a post from KooKoo88  http://nwn.bioware.c...37&post=7168001



The Qusetion is the way Chris worded his last answer to KooKoo88



These forums will close (not allow for new threads/posts) on Monday. After this time, we will archive them, but I do not have an eta for this to happen. While they will not allow for new posts, they can still be read until the archiving is complete.


               
               

               
            
Title: About getting organized and moving teh important stuff to here
Post by: Legacy_Tren of Twilight Tower on July 14, 2010, 02:31:00 am


               If we are to move (read: copy/paste) anything, then it might be a good idea to have a "public" list of things that are already moved, and maybe another list of suggestions that says what would be good idea to preserve from old forum.  That way we would be better organized and not blindly transfer same staff again and again.

Am still all ears to hear others on the subject, but sooner we get onto it, the better.

Tren :wizard:

Edit and P.S.
After a second thought, I would vote that we update the http://nwn.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page
               
               

               


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Title: About getting organized and moving teh important stuff to here
Post by: Legacy_diavlen on July 14, 2010, 03:11:41 am


               If the old forum is only going to be read-only, perhaps we should just start fresh on the new forums with the latest and greatest content.  And, after all these years, the best solutions should be here...wisdom of the ages et all that.  There is a lot of old information on the old forum.



Lightfoot is correct though...it all depends on what they mean by archiving...I'm not sure why archiving would make it unreadable.  It should just optimize it for static viewing...but I dunno...
               
               

               
            
Title: About getting organized and moving teh important stuff to here
Post by: Legacy_ChaosInTwilight on July 14, 2010, 03:42:26 am


               Archiving i assume will make it searchable, like the present archive is, but not as readily viewable?



Dunno, Either way, I'm gonna agree that when all is said and done 95% of the stuff we'd want to move.. already exists in the collective heads of those who are moving here.  I'd say handle it all on an As-needed basis.  



No sense porting over "Bob's guide to unique item scripting, last updated to handle Sou 11/12/06"
               
               

               
            
Title: About getting organized and moving teh important stuff to here
Post by: Legacy_Drewskie on July 14, 2010, 03:43:26 am


               

diavlen wrote...


Lightfoot is correct though...it all depends on what they mean by archiving...I'm not sure why archiving would make it unreadable. It should just optimize it for static viewing...but I dunno...


One assumes the way they are already archived...  If you've ever bothered, you can go thousands of message board pages back to the original threads from 2002.  The new topic and reply buttons will be gone, other than that the forum pages will stay just as they are.  I'm pretty sure that even the old Baldur's Gate 1&2 boards from years ago are still archived somewhere. 
               
               

               
            
Title: About getting organized and moving teh important stuff to here
Post by: Legacy_Urk on July 14, 2010, 04:36:29 am


               I'm not too worried. From a Search Engine Optimization (or SEO) perspective putting this much content out to pasture would be just plain stupid. Unless the webmasters here are total morons, and I have reason to believe they're not, they'll port the information over to a new template. It's not that hard. Even if the two systems are completely incompatible a script can be written that will convert the relevant parts of the pages to a CSV file, and another can be used to write it into any new format. Put this content onto a new template with nice keyword rich links built into it pointing to whomever actually owns the content (most likely Bio and/or Atari) and you have an SEO wet dream.

Nobody with an IQ over 25 just throws away 20,000+ pages of unique content.

If they really want to benefit from an SEO perspective they'll use 301 redirects to make sure the currently indexed pages don't come up with 404 errors. This means the filenames of the pages will most likely be left unchanged (good news for bookmarks).

The only downside is that these pages most likely won't be searchable from within these forums. That could be done with some fancy scripting, too, but it would be a lot of work and there's be no SEO benefit, so they probably won't bother. But you could still use Google advanced search to find archived pages by limiting your search to "bioware.com" (or whatever).Posted ImagePosted Image
               
               

               


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Title: About getting organized and moving teh important stuff to here
Post by: Legacy_pkpeachykeen on July 14, 2010, 04:47:50 am


               Whether we can search the pages from the forum depends on how the forums work and how they write the pages.

For example, if they were using phpBB, they could just write a script to dump the old post titles and texts and recreate them here, and the forum would auto-add them and they'd be searchable. This looks more like a custom forum software, though, so I'm not really sure.

I'll be personally archiving as much as I can (a habit of mine, having seen too many sites with rare mods go down over the years). What I do get will be made public (unless authors request otherwise) on my personal server, at least until I know it has a safe and solid home elsewhere.